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I really enjoy being on DA. I enjoy the conversations, the camaraderie, the discussions, and the different opinions we all have about various aspects of art.
My particular chosen field opens me up to a host of reactions from the sublime to the ridiculous. I get comments that are way over the top in how effusive they are and I get comments that take the opposite stance. I have a thick skin and am not at all bothered by someone outright hating my work.
I LIKE to hear different views about lighting, form, line, movement, texture, f-stops, shutter speeds, exposure level, contrast ratios, etc etc etc. While we all like a nice pat on the back, I'm a VERY secure person and even if no one on DA liked or even looked at my images, it wouldn't effect me in the least. I have no investment and make no money here. I do it because I enjoy it. I do it because I want to share what I see, how I see the world, and what I perceive as beautiful.

Recently, though, I have grown completely exhausted with the childish flaming of my models. This past week I sent a note to one such person asking her why she would call someone she didn't know, had never met, and had no idea whatsoever about her life… "a hooker". Another person seemed to think one of my models "should be shot like the dog she is". Another said he wished "she'd get cancer and die…"
I could go on and on listing the vitriolic, hate filled, and mean spirited comments but I won't. When I confronted one guy about his filthy and disturbing comment about "what he'd like to do to…" my model, his response was,"Lighten up Dude… it was just a joke!"
Well… saying hurtful things to people from the chicken shit anonymous safety of a computer screen is NOT a joke. Not only will I NOT lighten up…I am going to get VERY hard lined on this issue.
I am VERY VERY protective of my models. I adore them and guard their comfort in any and every way I can.

As I see it, I have two options.
One: to block all comments.
This doesn't seem like a fair option to all those who want to discuss the things that interest us ALL as artists, so I won't do that.
Two: Adopt a new policy regarding comments.
Here's the deal… from now on, I will not tolerate ANY comment that I think might even VAGUELY hurt my models feelings. I will block the user and hide the comment. NO ONE will get a second chance…DONE. NO ONE will get a chance to "explain" what they "really meant". No one will get a chance to apologize. This is MY gallery so I am judge and jury about what and who stays or goes. Harsh? Maybe, but I'm no longer interested in getting phone calls from models crying asking me if I could hide juvenile nasty comments.

I have a very hard time keeping up with all the comments here and SOOOO wish I could respond to all who enjoy and interact with me and my work. What I WILL ask is for your help. If you see a questionable comment on ANY of my images…PLEASE PLEASE note me and I will take care of it.
I will block the person and hide their comment.

Please feel free to continue to comment and feel free to say you don't like a particular shot. It's OK to say the model isn't your favorite…but comments that involve anything of a personal nature will result in being blocked and comments being hidden. If you have ANY question in your mind about whether or not the comment you are about to make is appropriate…DON'T risk it.
Those who have been my watchers for years now know and understand how I feel about all this. Help me keep the haters away!

All I am saying is, help me spread love and peace.
  • Listening to: the hum of the G5
  • Drinking: Heineken
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Milky-Nights Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I absolutely agree Pelicanh . . . and as a nude model myself (who fortunately hasn't really received any extremely hateful comments, although I have received some fairly prejudiced ones on the shape of my body and what certain people would like to do to me as well), it's nice to see a photographer stand up for his models.

Also, to those who say models - especially nude ones aren't tough - hell yes we are! Its not easy putting naked pictures of yourself online for the world to see!!! Granted, I enjoy doing it and have no problem with it whatsoever - but it is still bearing myself in a certain way, just as other models do - whether male or female - and they need to be respected for this.

People who make crude "jokes" need to be kicked off DA. I'm a pretty sarcastic, fun loving girl who has quite the potty mouth myself - but I'll be damned if I see brothers and sisters on here segregated and verbally abused.

Pelicanh, you are absolutely right! None of these DA users KNOW these models. They simply should comment on the artistry (or lack thereof if that is what they think) of the photo and the subject - not what they think of the subject personally.

Again - my thanks to you. Keep up the beautiful work!
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MagiKinchi Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
Y'know, its funny, but I was talking about something so similar with my Sister-In-Law, just the other day... and I recall expressing how I see among the rarest things in life how plain old common sense and courtesy ranks in the top tier with a handful of other points... its all too often insane to grasp, how frightening it can be. Seriously.

And I debated that perhaps as we grow wiser with time we become less tolerant to the patters of which we become all too familiar with with people and the trends that come and go... but its just too much that those types of disappointments don't disappoint in their incessant behaviour. ...and its always the few rotten pieces who mess it up for the rest of the party.

I'm afraid I do find myself in agreement with you... but only throw up the air of caution in giving too much power to those ignorant individuals or they would end holding your better judgement and influencing your personality over a lesson they could learn from... however much we know all too well it won't be like that at all.

Have a great weekend & Heiney!
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exquisiteoath Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Student General Artist
Futher to my last comment? IT's a sad fact that this isn't SOP throughout the site. Strikes me that we should never be making any comments that are even questionable in our own minds.
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exquisiteoath Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Student General Artist
My wife's thoughts: Most of them are probably just jealous and insecure about they way they look naked compared to the beautiful women you photograph.

My Thoughts (although this was originally about racism, I think it applies well here too)
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silversouls Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Professional General Artist
i really love your works
and about troll i have no mercy i ban em all
because their goal is to flame and destroy sites
we say in italy that the mother of idiots is allways pregnant....
have fun and thx for sharing your gorgeous works
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rojobe Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Professional Artist
Bravo! It's a shame there are those that have nothing better to do than taunt others. If I were a better person, I should feel sorry for them and their empty lives, if that's the only way they can communicate and find amusement.

But I don't. I have nothing for distain for them.

Your work is always tasteful and aesthetic. You take pride in your art and that shows in the quality of your pieces. Your models are exquisite and I think the one emotion from them that comes across in almost all your full portraits is one of pride.
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Mendicant-B1as Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
dont know what to say for fear of the wrath of god lol. i dont really understand why people can speak about anyone that the do not know in the slightest that they should just die. i mean, you would think that if a person had just a little bit of home training, religious or not, that you would know when to shut up and leave if you don't like what you see. Ah well, i am only 16 and have a rather naive perception of the world of art and in general. oh well, i am sorry that your models were hurt even though i don't know them ^^. just found your page too. keep up the great work. I can't wait to see more of your beautiful models
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KajusX Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Sounds good to me! Our web pages aren't democracies. We rule them. If someone doesn't like your page then boot their sorry asses to the curb. 'Get out of my Eden, you turd! You're stinking up the place with your ignorant attitudes!'
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Icarus-Descending Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
I think you've taken a very admirable stance. Both you and all your models have all my support, and as strict as it may or may not seem, I think your policy is very fair. For myself, hateful or not, joking or serious, comments and flames can get under anyone's skin. I know firsthand, being an Asian kid growing up in a predominantly non-Asian neighborhood and being a different kind of person from everyone else. Keep on doing what you're doing and don't let any of the haters get you or your models down. You, your photos, and all your models are beautiful. :D
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JadeSpiritWind8X Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Student General Artist
Rock on Michael. Rock on Helm's models.
I love you all :heart:

I support you 100%
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