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I have had several journals that started out with a sort of disclaimer or apology for being less than tolerant of religion. This time, I don't justify, apologize, or disclaim anything.

Nigeria, in the last decade or so has seen thousands of people die because they were Muslim OR Christian. They are killing each other by the hundreds with guns, machetes, or whatever means available. Women and children slain in their homes because they were a different religion. What possible God sees this as OK? OH…perhaps it's the god that commands his followers to kill thousands and thousands of people in the Bible. Seems like the same one to me.

There are property rights and what the government refers to as "indigeneship" in Nigeria. It means whoever was first to live on a particular parcel of land, has the rights to it. Add to this law of "indigeneship" the fact that Nigeria now produces a LOT of oil and you have the makings of a war. Ironically, the "democratic" government has embezzled four to eight BILLION dollars a year, so none of it goes to the Christians or Muslims anyway, but they kill each other over the prospect of owning some land and working their way up the loose ladder of politics.

This situation is tragic beyond belief. It illustrates the words of Voltaire,"If someone can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities".  
I'm tired of hearing people say it "…isn't the religion but it's the people". It isn't guns that kill people… blah blah blah.
People desperately want to defend their "faith", desperately want to keep their comfortable beliefs justified, and deny the fact that their religion is at the root of ANY murder, bigotry, or hate crime. But there it is…over and over again in the bible, in history, and in present day Nigeria. The thing that I find most baffling is religious people's refusal to READ facts. I can never seem to get it through my head why someone would CHOOSE to be ignorant about something they think is important. But this is almost beside the point because the point is not WHETHER they believe or not, the point is, how do those beliefs allow or command people to behave?

Just yesterday I read this headline in the news:
"Homosexuality criminalized by Nigerian Senate: Christians, Muslims cheer"
It is now a crime to be gay in Nigeria. Anyone who dares enter into a same sex relationship or marriage faces a 14 year prison sentence. Any public display of affection between same sex couples results in a 10 year prison term. In addition, anyone advocating for gay rights or gay marriage gets 10 years in prison also. For these "crimes", one is handed a prison sentence and the Christians and Muslims CHEER! They fucking CHEER when two people who's only crime is to simply love each other, are thrown in prison. And if you think that kind of horror only happens in Nigeria, listen to Presidential candidate Rick Perry's "Strong" video clip on Youtube. How can anyone who CHOOSES to be this ignorant run for President of our country?

I'm sad, I'm sickened, and I'm broken hearted to see, in a modern world, this kind of religiously motivated hatred, bigotry, and homophobic paranoia create and pass these kinds of laws in Nigeria or anywhere in the world. Add to this tragic scene, the fact that in Nigeria you can marry a 13 year old girl. How is this possible? It's OK to violate a child but unlawful to love another human being if they are the same gender. THIS is a DIRECT result of their beliefs in their gods.

Set this against a background of advances in science where the Higgs boson or "god particle" is very close to confirmation, and we have such dichotomy that it strains comprehension. Scientists are able to make these discoveries, put a man on the moon, and send rovers to Mars, but we imprison two people for loving each other. In spite of the advances in every area of science and research, people still believe there's a guy in the sky watching us and judging our behavior and this sky guy tells his followers to kill anyone who doesn't share his beliefs, imprison others who love each other differently, but it's perfectly acceptable to violate a 13 year old child.

After my trip to Japan where I witnessed first hand the destruction of the tsunami, I have become even more a lover of life. ALL life. I have become more of a pacifist. I see no justification for killing another human being and no reason to believe in some guy in the sky who'd allow innocent children to be viciously drowned and swept away by a wall of water. No reason to believe in a supposedly loving power that would allow Miki Endo to announce over the loudspeakers of Minamisanriku to,"get to higher ground, tsunami warning" and then be enveloped by that very tsunami. This type of god must either be a loveless power or a powerless love…useless and pathetic as a candidate for a god in my book either way it goes. Christians love to say,"His ways are above our understanding" or "It must be for a reason". This COMPLETE surrender to unconsciousness, this choosing of ignorance, this denial of factual information flies in the face of all that makes us human and aware. It is the ultimate Christian denial of personal responsibility and it is THIS denial that allows murder, imprisonment, and hatred to flourish.

I dislike writing journals full of negativity because I am such a positive person. But those news headlines hurt my heart deeply. Because I came out of a deeply religious background, because I am now free of that blindness, and because I now celebrate the different ways human beings love each other… I MUST speak out. Shout out against what I see as evil and ignorant and speak up for love, peace, and understanding.

Therefore, my final observation is this… I know human beings will survive even the worst of natural disasters. I believe people will survive and learn from even the worst onslaughts from ignorant factions. Somehow we made it through the Inquisition (which no one expected! lol) (wonder how many people will get that reference?). I maintain the belief that some day, being gay will go unnoticed because it is no different than having red hair or blue eyes. WHO we love won't matter and THAT we love, will be celebrated. I choose to believe that some day Christianity, and hopefully all religion, will fade away as did the mythology of  the Romans and Greeks. We'll understand the consequences of building barriers between humans, we'll understand the cosmos much better, and hopefully our place in it. I choose to believe we'll learn to live in harmony with our planet and be better to Mother Nature and to each other. I lived to see the Civil Rights movement, but we have a long way yet to go.

I CHOOSE to live positive. I CHOOSE to believe in mankind, in art, and in love. I see no other way to live. I see no other way to BE, than to spread peace and love where ever I go. In spite of what I see in Nigeria, I choose to believe it can't last. While I am just one person, I am resolute in my choice to live free and spread that same message. I'll continue to write, to donate time, and to use my skills to influence where I can.

So in this season… I will spend time reflecting on how fortunate I am and what a marvelous and wondrous world I live in. The best present I could ever have for Christmas, is the realization that I celebrated another year walking around this beautiful Earth. Happy for the gift of life… my life… and all life.

Happy Heinekens to you all.
  • Listening to: the hum of the G5
  • Drinking: Heineken
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NiraSix Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's always refreshing to find out that we're not alone in our opinions :P Wonderful, really.
However, I disagree with all that final positivism. You see, for me, mankind is pretty much hopeless. Whether it is about religion or, for saying, earth pollution, people just refuse to change their point of view. It's much easier and comfortable to stick with what we learned as kids, even though what we were taught is all that wrong.
If there was such thing as gods, would they really want to save this kind of species, so arrogant and greedy? If I was up there, looking down on earth, letting men kill each other would probably be a nice way to save what's left of the earth... A god could always restart mankind from scratch, right?
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CarmenVeloso Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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musicandmotion Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2011  Professional Photographer
Are you a fan of the Simpsons? This quote will make you smile:
Superintendant Chamers: "Religion has no place in public schools the way facts have no place in organized religion."
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2011  Professional Photographer
LOL...good one
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JSF1 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition!
I do love me some Monty Python.
How many did recognize that?
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2011  Professional Photographer
LOL...not too many
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tremorfireheart Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I must say that faith and religion made me into the man i am today, the reason i still am today(had a serious bout with depression).I have had prayers answered; everything from show me something so i will take you at faith hence forth... to the ridiculous request of please let lightning hit the school so we have the power go out and take the test tomorrow. I must admit I'm not a pacifist, I will train and take up arms to defend my life,my family and my friends, but im not a war mongerer.

The base of any violence is from displeasure, a lack of empathy, and lack of consequence. When we are hungry we will do things for food. The greater the displeasure(hunger pains) the greater risks we are willing to take (steal, lie , kill). When times are good we do not feel the compulsion or temptation as often. Once you feel the temptation though only two things truly stop you. 1. empathy and sympathy for the person on the recieving end of the violence. 2. Perceived Consequences of the action, usually from other people.

First let me say that you are exemplary in your empathy and sympathy towards other human beings. For you nothing else is required for you to avoid acts of violence. Most of the rest of society needs something though. We band together for safety from displeasure and this gives rise two things. First is politics- interactions and agreements between people. The problem being the more agreements made the more complicated the structure the more waste you have and as soon as you have more than two people a vote is needed and those in the majority(and thus generally able to impose the largest consequence) have the power. Also those who have achieved a status of power tend to try to secure their position, after all being able to do as we please with lack of consequence is generally our goal as a human being.

2nd is religion a bound set of rules to which you think the cosmos adhere to. Religion can be a good thing when it convinces people to act in a more tolerant way than they would have naturally. it starts out as a belief and then as it spreads between people, but they tend to modify the beliefs to suit their view points before spreading them. enough people together makes it a religion. It serves a few puposes generally. Something to cling on to when you have nothing else, that you will have rewards for empathy, and be an eternal boogeyman that imposes consequences that man can do nothing about. It tries to convince people of a looming consequence so that they will fear more than just human observation. That they will act in ways void of displeasuring others to avoid the bogeyman type consequences. the true consequences of the cosmos..... well take your pick, unfathomable to the human in totality or..... non existent. cliche' yes but no man can comprehend everything.

people imprison, torture and kill to impose consequences. alot of people will twist both of the above to try and justify or excuse their acts which cause displeasure for others, so that fewer others will not band together and in turn impose their own consequences on them. "If someone can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities" is definately true. we have gathered more knowledge so that section has advanced more quickly than our ability to fight our inate natures.

God gives us all a calling. yours seem to be to teach of love and tolerance. Love and empathy are very important,So keep spreading them. I will continue to spread my beliefs as well. That there is a cosmic force that watches us. That it wants us to be humble, non judgemental and treat others with kindness and respect. That this force showed us his son as an example for our lives. That we should tend to the less fortunate and even do some when it's unpleasant. may we both get people to live more in tolerance, may your calls be heeded by the agnostic and may mine heeded by others who calls themselves christian for a more peaceful world.
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ArtemisAesthetic Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional General Artist
Your essence is exceptionally pure, as beautifully magical as love truly is. :heart:
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Hawk-619 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Happy anything you celebrate theese days, mr Helms. Peace, love and Heineken :hug:
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional Photographer
to you too!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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MemeTee Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011
Well put, i found this an awesome late night read, and much of what you said has been on the brain lately. Thanks
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional Photographer
THanks Magan.
btw...dunno if you have ever been, but I think it would be a HOOT to photograph YOU at Burning Man!! I'll be there next year!
Your port is fun!
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MemeTee Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011
I will definitely be there, I'm taking my sister aswell. Along with the rest of the crew. I will get in contact with you closer to then. I love reading your journals and checking out your work.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional Photographer
WWOOOOHOOO!!!!
Yes - I can't wait to go home!!! PLEASE keep in touch and let me know where you all are. PARTY!!!!!!
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ianisthewalrus Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011
i think you may enjoy this entire video, depends on your sense of humor, but this joke sounds right on with your post ;-)

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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2011  Professional Photographer
Yea - I've seen his act. He is SOOOOO funny! thanks!
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ianisthewalrus Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011
i beg your pardon if not.

humor is my coping mechanism of dealing with the stupidity in the world...
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Softcorequeen Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Professional General Artist
As long as there exists love, I will never loose the faith in humanity n_n
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Professional Photographer
me too Sweetie!
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scarletjay Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011   Photographer
This journal is spot on and reminded me of something my grandmother told me years ago,she said "always remember that religion started more wars than it ended "
She was very religious.
Living in the Netherlands I can tell you that yes we are still very tollerant allthough we do have some strange right wing government now,fortunately a lot of our tollerance has been put to law in the past.

Hope you get all you want for Christmas .

Btw,most people I know think Heineken has got nothing to do with beer ;-)
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lilbittydemon Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2011
amen!
I say this because I am too tired and lazy to reflect my own opinions..
.but, know I agree wholeheartedly with you on this issue!!
xoxoxoxo
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Professional Photographer
Xoxoxoxox
Wuvs her
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Justine-Sexton Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Artist
It is amazing isn't it? The crime of love--and although it's not quite as bad in the states, as there is no prison time for it, it's pathetic that even here there is no equality.

I've always been amazed by people who spend so much time with judgmental condemnation of other human beings instead of focusing their energies on improving their own lives. Can you imagine a world where people loved one another just because? Love without conditions... and ironically enough, the followers of Christianity are in total opposition to what their religions founder taught. Unconditional love.

Someday, us or our descendants will look back at these times and shake their heads in disbelief. Much like we look back at slavery and the racist segregation policies of a forgone era, and ask, "what the hell was wrong with those people?"

Changing the world is done step-by-step, and falls upon each of us to do our part to hep make it so.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
totally agree. While I LOVE living in this time - I DO wonder what the world will be like 100 years from now!
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Demonizer68 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011
Yet another reason why I don't bother with religion, don't get me wrong it's not as if I don't beleive that something had to start all of this and that there's forces beyond human control, or even comprehension (did I spell that right?), because I do. It's just that the Multi Billion dollar question is "What?" or "What is it?" and that's when the fights begin! But getting locked up for being gay is a little harsh, but that's the way they act over there, I wonder if Nigeria has had some conversations with the Westborough Church? You know those hicks who thought Broke Back Montain was a documentary and picketed Dios funeral, because he was a devil worshipper. Personally, I hate everyone equally and that's all that matters. Now if you'll exscuse me, I have some "Devil worshipping" to listen too!
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
Haters are gonna hate, eh?
And yep - you spelled comprehension correctly! :)
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EMack114 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011
Well Sir, your entitled to your opinion. I'm a Christian myself and I believe that God gave us the power of free will to separate us from common animals. What we choose to do with that free will is up to us. Yes, many atrocities happen all over the world; children are harmed, innocent people are killed, people are oppressed and arguably that can be pointed at the one who (according to my belief) gave it to us in the first place. At the same time, we have also been blessed with many good things in this world. Martin Luther King Jr. can be an example.

The fact is that we live in an imperfect world. No matter what, people will always get hurt, innocent people will always get killed. Can God take away all that? I believe so, yes. But then what's the point? If/When that happens, we'll be no different than dogs; trained and bred to behave a certain way by something that is naturally above us.

Free Will is a gift. It is a blessed and terrible gift. Free Will is what allows you to love so passionately and what allows people to massacre each other in support of what they believe is right. I admit, I do question why such things are allowed, but I have also read that when the end of days comes, Jesus will come down and take all those who are saved by his standards (what ever that may be) up with him to heaven. Those left behind will be given one final chance to get right with God before they die.

Too be honest, I don't know what his standards are. I, personally, don't really agree with homosexuality, but I won't hold it against someone. I don't know if it's genetic or mental or whatever. The fact remains is that it's not my place as a person same as that individual to judge them for how they love. When they die, will they go to heaven? That's between them and God. Shit, when I die, I don't even know if I'll get in; I'm no virgin and I'm not married so I've sinned.

Basically, upon reading your statement, I can see why you believe what you believe in and I respect you for it. Admittedly, I was a little offended when you called God, power less and loveless, but that's just me being a christian. I love you all the same as a brother of Christ even if you don't believe. Also, I'm sorry if I offended you for calling you that. I believe that we have free will and that the world must also have a delicate balance of good and bad. After all, Sunny days wouldn't be special if it wasn't for rain and joy wouldn't feel so good if it wasn't for pain, no? Thank you for your time and may you continue to live your life the way you love.

Merry Christmas, from Yonkers, NY!!
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
PS I didn't call god powerless AND loveless. I said he had to be either a powerless love or a loveless power. If he is all powerful, he must not give a rats ass about the horror he exacts on his creation, or he cares but is powerless to do anything about it. Can't have it both ways. Not much "free will" being exercised in the tsunami deaths in Japan.
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EMack114 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2011
Nope, your right. There isn't much free will in the Tsunami deaths in Japan and I won't try to give an explanation on why things like that happen in this world. I could say "Only he knows" or "it
s natures way of keeping the planet in check" but hell if I know. I can only tell you what I think of the situation in that retrospect. I think that sometimes, shit happens to people both good and bad. It's just a part of living in this thing we all call life.
Maybe your right...maybe religion is all just some kind of conspiracy written by someone or maybe the government is trying to do something or shit, maybe the signs are there and people don't wanna see it. Maybe I'm right and there is a God (or Gods..whatever people prefer) and when we all die, we all have to stand before him/her/it/they (whatever you prefer) and all will be known to us. I don't know. Admittedly, I haven't completely read the bible and I do believe that some of it may be over exaggerated. i don't believe that everything was made in exactly seven days, I believe that it was made through the Big Bang theory and that one day was like 1 billion years.
I believe that mankind evolved from apes or whatever into what it is today. As for resurrection and the miracles.....I can see that. I've certainly heard of strange things happening in this day and age, so Mary the Virgin Mother and Jesus being brought back from the dead....yea I can wrap my head around that. Would I flip my shit if I saw it today? Absolutely.
I can also see from your perspective and yeah, what you say has strength in the argument. Yea the Bible doesn't really account for other religions if you read it word for word, but I don't think its a set rule book. I believe that the Bible serves as guide lines. I honestly believe that if you live your life and try to be the best person you can be that you CAN get into heaven. I mean, I know people who are saints on this Earth who are Atheist and they can't get eternal salvation because they don't accept Christ as their Lord and Savior? Doesn't sound right and I hope that I'm right on this one.
If I'm wrong..well hey, I guess that I was wrong then. What I'm saying is that, yes, it seems that God can be powerless and it seems that we can be alone out here in this universe but people don't believe that to be true. Well a lot of people don't anyway. I don't know much about other cultures religions, but from the ones that I've encountered I do see a set moral code ; bee the best person you can be in this world so you can be better in whatever you get when you pass on. I follow this rule, to the best of my ability all the while recognizing that hardships are simply a part of this life. People die, that's what we're here for in the end....life is balance. I believe that for every good there must be a bad and maybe the Tsuanami was God's way of equalizing the good and the bad as I said I don't know.
You can't ave everyone and it's easy to believe and be thankful when everything is going your way. Maybe natural disasters and death and pain are just another way of helping us appreciate the good things of life. The knowledge of death may be what some people need to remind them to live their life right...you could be dead and gone tomorrow y'know.
I do enjoy these conversations; I rarely ever meet people with different points of view and I hope your not getting all "excessively angry" about them. You say that a dualistic point of view can be myopic or short sided. I don't know how many other people you've talked too (I'll assume a lot since you seem pretty passionate and well informed about this subject) but I don't believe that dualism invokes short sight in a "typical" christian (whatever that is.) I think that stubbornness, fear in being wrong, and the fear of the unknown can lead a person to the kind of view your implying. I don't know if you think I'm myopic (I'll assume not since you didn't call me that) but while I do believe in facts and purpose, I also believe in that some things simply can't be explained.
You rely a lot on hard evidence and I commend you for that; I like proof as well. But I also believe that some supernatural things are beyond human explanation. Things that come to mind are possession (yes i believe that things like that are possible even though I've never seen them). You say that a typical Christian has a short sided point of view...well I look at myself as a typical Christian (I know a little, I try to do good and live my life like an average American citizen) and I don't think I'm myopic at all. Yeah, it would suck for me to die and to find out there is no after life, but that's a chance I'm willing to take.....the experience is half the fun after all.
You can say that I really don't know much about the Bible and I'm inclined to agree. I read every night about a chapter) and I'm still in Exodus so...you probably got me beat, but even if I did...I Think that I'd still have faith....something's gotta be better than this world...I hope...if I'm wrong well hey...it was a hell of a ride! I don't know how old you are or what you've experienced on this Earth, but sometimes you gotta just throw away the science.....a little blind faith (AT THE RIGHT TIME) is never supposed to hurt anybody. Believing that Jesus walked on water (maybe he did, maybe he didn't) is ok......the whole Crusades thing wasn't.

That answers questions 1 and 2 of your response, I think.

3. What horrid murders commanded by God? You mean the Crusades, Great Flood? I'm not that far in the Bible yet.

4. If your talking about Adam and Eve....well hey, free will and common sense are two different things. That and I believe that the Garden of Eden was a real place...but I don't think it happened like that...I mean the Bible didn't just fall out the sky written by God. OR maybe Eve was just stupid and didn't believe what God said, if your going word for word by the book (which is more of a Jehova's Witness thing, I believe.) If my dad said "hey..don't eat this it'll kill ya...I wouldn't be near it...let alone eat it.

5. I already covered this topic and if you read my response you know my opinion on it.

6. There's no court of law that would accept me saying "well Ghandi or Malcholm X back in the day said, either so I don't get what your implying. And while I was aware they were written after Jesus' death, I didn't know it was 40 years so thanks.

7. I agree, Jesus never did write anything...he was a prophet and a damned good one.

8. I haven't read all the Gospels so until I do I'll take your word for it, unless you have a chapter or scripture you want me to read?

I hope to hear from you soon and again, I'm enjoying this debate...its rare that I get to engage in a conversation like this. If I miss you, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Professional Photographer
Yea...I majored in Theology in college and I'm 61 years old....so...I've seen a lot. By " horrid murders"... I mean if you count all the people god directly commanded to be murdered. Like when the Israelites went into their " holy land"... God told them to kill every living thing! God directly commanded the killing of over a million people if you count them. That's fucked up.
My implication is that no one really knows what Jesus said because it was years later before any of it was written down.
All of this is moot anyway since I think the Bible is no more valid as a religious script than the Iliad and the Odyssey.
What books were canonized and what books were left out of the bible was also a subjective choice.
You seem to have some fairly liberal viewpoints for someone who claims to be Christian...for this I commend you...but I'm not so sure some of what you think will go over well in church.
Good luck and have good holidays
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EMack114 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011
Lol...it's all good. I haven't been to Church in years anyway. Thanks for the discussion. If you ever have another topic you want to discuss my forum is always open.

BTW I'm 22 and have been in the military for 4 years and am just starting college so I've still got a lot to learn.

Have a Great New Year!
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011  Professional Photographer
we're all works in progress! Good luck!
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EMack114 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2011
Hoo Yah!!
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
First of all - I don't believe in a dualistic point of view. To subscribe to a dichotomy (black - white, up - down, left - right, or as you say, rain - sun, joy - pain) is too narrow and gives rise to rigid and myopic view. This is typical of the Christian view point.
Second - Christians seem to be enveloped in a world of their Bible without doing any research about where that bible came from. Who wrote it, why are the canonized books there and why not all the other "gospels". Where did all the stories come from. How much is true and how much is myth and how does that effect the lifestyle.
Third - what about all the horrid murders COMMANDED by god?
Fourth - there is a pretty basic flaw in a story where a couple is given free will and CHOOSE what they know is death! Either the "free will" they were given was flawed or they were DESIGNED to make a rotten choice
Fifth - what about Buddhists? Jews? Muslims? Bible says they are join to hell because they don't believe in Jesus
Sixth - there is no court of law that would accept as testimony, someone saying,"well..40 years ago Jesus said...." (in case you aren't aware - the FIRST gospels were not even written until at least 40 years AFTER Jesus died.
Seventh - Jesus never wrote anything, so it's all second hand quotes
Eighth - the gospels don't agree with each other

I could go on and on and on...
Yes - there is a good basic message in the Bible. But heaven, hell, virgin birth, and rising from the dead....c'mon.... REALLY???
My point of view is, I just wish Christians would READ. Start with the history of religion...ALL religion. And finish up with physics and astronomy. THAT will bring one to the realization that religion is just man made stories to comfort us and control our behavior. And it will bring us to the conclusion, that thankfully, we just simply aren't very important in the universe. And that SELF IMPORTANCE is a basic tenant of religion.
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BorjaMendez Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011  Professional Photographer
I was going to quote Lennon but Marcus Ranum hit first.

It is so sad what religions make followers to do...I am from Spain, we took Inquisition to a new level centuries ago. Now we are one of the first countries that approved and legalized gay marriage and adoptions with the same rights as straight couples...but unfortunately the Conservative Party, aligned with catholic church, won past elections because of the crisis, and we have this fear that they will undo all that has been made through this years because some stupid people think that is wrong loving someone from your own gender.

Love is love, it does not understand of gender, age, religion or frontiers. It just happens.


Great Journal Michael.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
so true - and so sad. thanks.
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Lalita17 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011
you are amazing~ this brought me to tears.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
thank you Lalita
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Lalita17 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011
you're very welcome Pelicanh :)
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LostTogether Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love not following a particular religion, sort of a side note to the general journal in itself but, Christmas to me is a time where I get to honor and spend time with the people in my life I value the most. It is a time when I can dote upon them shamelessly and enjoy every second of it, where I get to eat delicious food, drink delicious wine and play darts, a time where all the weird family traditions get pulled out of the boxes in the garage.
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
:) good viewpoint!
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lilbittydemon Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011
"I CHOOSE to live positive. I CHOOSE to believe in mankind, in art, and in love."
i love you...
and I believe in mankind, and in art...and in love.
thanks to you and yours...
i lurve you!!!
xoxo...-Bitty
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
awww....we lurves YOU YOU YOU
SO MUCH SO MUCH SO MUCH
XOXXOOXO
Come over - NOW!!!
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SRP1998 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2011
Well written. Deep. Kudos my friend...
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
thanks
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11-7 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011
I endure your critique of the Abrahamic religions even when only mentioning radicals that usually take their texts out of context.

It's alright though because I know history. History says that all that has happened, will happen again. Just wait a while, a new Inquisition will come in some form or another, probably in the form of our government, unfortunately. It's only a matter of time; so says the mighty words of History. ;)
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Pelicanh Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011  Professional Photographer
it's curious to me that one does not see the religious non radicals rising up against those that make said religion look bad. Why would the peaceful Muslim majority be more proactive in squashing the radicals? "Am I not my brother's keeper?"
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11-7 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2011
The peaceful Muslims 'majority' (I'm not certain that they are as there are many divisions) would have to abandon their peaceful title in order to overtake said radicals. I do know that radicals have slaughtered minority Muslims, in certain areas, because the minority had a slightly different version of Islam. In such a case, the radicals would be majority and little could be done without being killed.

Something similar happens within Christianity like that church that protests at military funerals. Although it is their right (Constitutionally), they should have more sense. I have heard little to nothing about other churches publicly criticizing the protesting church's actions.

What comes out of this, is a world where religions ignore their brother's actions and focus, instead, on saying that others are wrong.
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psiopps7 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011  Professional Photographer
Well Said,Well Spoken!!!
Be Well!!!
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OrbitingSaturn Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I may link this on my FB, if you don't mind (I've been loving your work for some time, I just never really comment on anything).

That aside - it breaks my heart, the things people do to each other -- in the name of religion or anything else.

I won't lie -- I have (finally) found where my spirituality lies (or so it seems, I obsess about it a lot less since I found the word). Pantheism (or more precisely, Panentheism) -- I believe in a god, who is an impersonal and removed "being" who created everything. Turned the power on, and walked away, or at least doesn't really give a crap. Beyond that, the "divine" is every where and in every single person, regardless of race, religion, gender (or lack thereof), sexuality, etc. Damaging the spirit of another person damages your own spirit.

Organized religion is a convenient excuse for people to gang up and spread hate. Oddly, since moving to Massachusetts, I have encountered many more Bible Thumpers than I did in the South. And they all preach love and peace, while mumbling about how terrible Muslims and Gays and Catholics and Mormons and "Loose Women" are under their breaths. It disgusts me. I don't know if the end of religion will make it stop, but I wouldn't mind the experiment.
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